http://burningwoman.tribe.net/thread/783841a8-d0d0-4169-94de-0cf76e2f0a95?format=rss Tribe.net. Local Connections http://burningwoman.tribe.net/thread/783841a8-d0d0-4169-94de-0cf76e2f0a95#e93bfc7d-2a08-4a4e-b590-d239aaae7fe5 I often hear the younger woman described as some form of pastry: twinkie, cupcake, cream puff Thu, 16 Jul 2009 00:39:59 GMT http://burningwoman.tribe.net/thread/783841a8-d0d0-4169-94de-0cf76e2f0a95#e93bfc7d-2a08-4a4e-b590-d239aaae7fe5 Soooz: biker/priestess 2009-07-16T00:39:59Z http://burningwoman.tribe.net/thread/783841a8-d0d0-4169-94de-0cf76e2f0a95#5a373254-aaaa-4f3c-95ac-caf292e2fcff I've heard "twink" or "twinkie" in the gay community primarily. Here the word I hear for older-man, younger-woman relationships is "chicken hawk." Wed, 15 Jul 2009 18:49:43 GMT http://burningwoman.tribe.net/thread/783841a8-d0d0-4169-94de-0cf76e2f0a95#5a373254-aaaa-4f3c-95ac-caf292e2fcff Go Ask Alice 2009-07-15T18:49:43Z http://burningwoman.tribe.net/thread/783841a8-d0d0-4169-94de-0cf76e2f0a95#cf992c41-4ab6-46e2-86d8-f02f034e05d3 The crude term would be that you are his twinkie. This is usually the word applied to younger women with older men. Mon, 29 Jun 2009 17:46:29 GMT http://burningwoman.tribe.net/thread/783841a8-d0d0-4169-94de-0cf76e2f0a95#cf992c41-4ab6-46e2-86d8-f02f034e05d3 Soooz: biker/priestess 2009-06-29T17:46:29Z http://burningwoman.tribe.net/thread/783841a8-d0d0-4169-94de-0cf76e2f0a95#129442cd-5ebd-49a1-9a79-39d1fd574fa1 OMG I am a cougar! Mon, 29 Jun 2009 15:56:08 GMT http://burningwoman.tribe.net/thread/783841a8-d0d0-4169-94de-0cf76e2f0a95#129442cd-5ebd-49a1-9a79-39d1fd574fa1 Elaine~ 2009-06-29T15:56:08Z http://burningwoman.tribe.net/thread/783841a8-d0d0-4169-94de-0cf76e2f0a95#370ffb9c-5ce2-4716-bc1b-d45a86d21d95 It isn't the idea of the age difference, but the negative inferences that go with the word "cougar." For example, "A 35+ year old female who is on the "hunt" for a much younger, energetic, willing-to-do-anything male. The cougar can frequently be seen in a padded bra, cleavage exposed, propped up against a swanky bar in San Francisco (or other cities) waiting, watching, calculating; gearing up to sink her claws into an innocent young and strapping buck who happens to cross her path. " Think Desperate Housewives of ___. Mon, 29 Jun 2009 14:09:01 GMT http://burningwoman.tribe.net/thread/783841a8-d0d0-4169-94de-0cf76e2f0a95#370ffb9c-5ce2-4716-bc1b-d45a86d21d95 S.C. Libertine 2009-06-29T14:09:01Z http://burningwoman.tribe.net/thread/783841a8-d0d0-4169-94de-0cf76e2f0a95#64340da4-72e8-404a-95dd-d04d48deaba7 HA!!!! Oh my. Fri, 26 Jun 2009 16:06:52 GMT http://burningwoman.tribe.net/thread/783841a8-d0d0-4169-94de-0cf76e2f0a95#64340da4-72e8-404a-95dd-d04d48deaba7 Hannah 2009-06-26T16:06:52Z http://burningwoman.tribe.net/thread/783841a8-d0d0-4169-94de-0cf76e2f0a95#9ce9aaf0-0884-4a7d-99d0-ef37e5d864f8 A silverback. Thu, 25 Jun 2009 06:16:28 GMT http://burningwoman.tribe.net/thread/783841a8-d0d0-4169-94de-0cf76e2f0a95#9ce9aaf0-0884-4a7d-99d0-ef37e5d864f8 Munky 2009-06-25T06:16:28Z http://burningwoman.tribe.net/thread/783841a8-d0d0-4169-94de-0cf76e2f0a95#3f587647-db42-4956-a107-01f351869887 so....i should start dating 26yr olds....cool!! Thu, 25 Jun 2009 00:36:09 GMT http://burningwoman.tribe.net/thread/783841a8-d0d0-4169-94de-0cf76e2f0a95#3f587647-db42-4956-a107-01f351869887 P∑ñGuïñ 2009-06-25T00:36:09Z http://burningwoman.tribe.net/thread/783841a8-d0d0-4169-94de-0cf76e2f0a95#a7a67b4c-d3df-4916-836b-910c3ab610dd I'm 32 and my boyfriend is 42. Would that make me a Reverse Coug? What's the opposite of a Cougar anyway? Wed, 24 Jun 2009 18:25:35 GMT http://burningwoman.tribe.net/thread/783841a8-d0d0-4169-94de-0cf76e2f0a95#a7a67b4c-d3df-4916-836b-910c3ab610dd Hannah 2009-06-24T18:25:35Z http://burningwoman.tribe.net/thread/783841a8-d0d0-4169-94de-0cf76e2f0a95#9fc4567c-fd42-4b3a-81cb-86a9b2f96822 does anyone know if the term applies to older lesbian women who prey on younger women? << Ligers. Wed, 24 Jun 2009 17:19:59 GMT http://burningwoman.tribe.net/thread/783841a8-d0d0-4169-94de-0cf76e2f0a95#9fc4567c-fd42-4b3a-81cb-86a9b2f96822 Elaine~ 2009-06-24T17:19:59Z http://burningwoman.tribe.net/thread/783841a8-d0d0-4169-94de-0cf76e2f0a95#2ab6afe1-0365-44b9-99b3-046b44c44094 PS, I was taught by urban legend that the "equation" to figure out if you are being a "cougar" or not is: Half of your age + 7 = the age of your lover (or higher) = cougar By this equation, I can start being a cougar NOW (at 27), but I still can't meet them in bars. :-) Wed, 24 Jun 2009 17:09:39 GMT http://burningwoman.tribe.net/thread/783841a8-d0d0-4169-94de-0cf76e2f0a95#2ab6afe1-0365-44b9-99b3-046b44c44094 Go Ask Alice 2009-06-24T17:09:39Z http://burningwoman.tribe.net/thread/783841a8-d0d0-4169-94de-0cf76e2f0a95#29957d2e-8c37-4353-99a4-4e60170b79eb I hear cougar as, "A woman at her sexual peak, engendering fear in weaker males and arousal in the ones ready to deal with a passionate Goddess." Wed, 24 Jun 2009 17:06:25 GMT http://burningwoman.tribe.net/thread/783841a8-d0d0-4169-94de-0cf76e2f0a95#29957d2e-8c37-4353-99a4-4e60170b79eb Go Ask Alice 2009-06-24T17:06:25Z http://burningwoman.tribe.net/thread/783841a8-d0d0-4169-94de-0cf76e2f0a95#f88f05ba-f196-42fd-9811-743fee01c5e9 was she preyin' on some young lithe cub? Mon, 22 Jun 2009 03:19:00 GMT http://burningwoman.tribe.net/thread/783841a8-d0d0-4169-94de-0cf76e2f0a95#f88f05ba-f196-42fd-9811-743fee01c5e9 thriver 2009-06-22T03:19:00Z http://burningwoman.tribe.net/thread/783841a8-d0d0-4169-94de-0cf76e2f0a95#b71384cb-0a86-4b4b-8474-c215174ee76c On a linguistically related note: I live fairly remotely up in the hills, and today was 'fix some pipes up the hill' day. All done, I head for home, turn a corner and saw a mountain lion walk away from me into some bushes. Looked up, and there it was, turning and noiselessly moving away. Less than 10 minutes ago. A cougar. Breathtaking. Literally. So, at the moment, y'all can call me whatever you want. Cougar. Panther. That pansy-ass who's now sportin' a .375 and keeping a closer eye on the goats... I'm just happy to be here. Whoa. Sun, 21 Jun 2009 01:59:28 GMT http://burningwoman.tribe.net/thread/783841a8-d0d0-4169-94de-0cf76e2f0a95#b71384cb-0a86-4b4b-8474-c215174ee76c Heidi 2009-06-21T01:59:28Z http://burningwoman.tribe.net/thread/783841a8-d0d0-4169-94de-0cf76e2f0a95#a09b1bc5-6b51-4a84-8ad0-31262df69bfa I can't stand either phrase also, I think they are both stupid. Matt, by BF is ten years younger than me and when someone actually tries to use the "cougar" to describe me, I always say, "Hell No, I am a Panther" and the only reason I don't get more heated with someone calling me that is my love for cats, especially black cats, hence the panther coming into play, so I just try to make a joke of it ;-) Sat, 20 Jun 2009 17:07:39 GMT http://burningwoman.tribe.net/thread/783841a8-d0d0-4169-94de-0cf76e2f0a95#a09b1bc5-6b51-4a84-8ad0-31262df69bfa Smelly 2009-06-20T17:07:39Z http://burningwoman.tribe.net/thread/783841a8-d0d0-4169-94de-0cf76e2f0a95#0cb6de0d-40e1-4b56-bdcf-b161360fdf1e I cannot stand either phrase. Sat, 20 Jun 2009 15:50:35 GMT http://burningwoman.tribe.net/thread/783841a8-d0d0-4169-94de-0cf76e2f0a95#0cb6de0d-40e1-4b56-bdcf-b161360fdf1e S.C. Libertine 2009-06-20T15:50:35Z http://burningwoman.tribe.net/thread/783841a8-d0d0-4169-94de-0cf76e2f0a95#7716a3e3-6ddf-453f-872f-005c0dac646a lol! Sat, 20 Jun 2009 15:27:20 GMT http://burningwoman.tribe.net/thread/783841a8-d0d0-4169-94de-0cf76e2f0a95#7716a3e3-6ddf-453f-872f-005c0dac646a leslie 2009-06-20T15:27:20Z http://burningwoman.tribe.net/thread/783841a8-d0d0-4169-94de-0cf76e2f0a95#ace0e044-49d8-4b96-bdad-ddb66e7c62ae I think that would be a... coug-her. Meow. Sat, 20 Jun 2009 07:55:31 GMT http://burningwoman.tribe.net/thread/783841a8-d0d0-4169-94de-0cf76e2f0a95#ace0e044-49d8-4b96-bdad-ddb66e7c62ae Dusty Nipples (Kim) 2009-06-20T07:55:31Z http://burningwoman.tribe.net/thread/783841a8-d0d0-4169-94de-0cf76e2f0a95#f4111e0f-6716-4c64-b25d-8d740354bdda "yes, the term really does mean an older woman, not just a woman who's a few years older than her boyfriend. " does anyone know if the term applies to older lesbian women who prey on younger women? just wondering. we might as well bring the gender fuckery out of it's box... Fri, 19 Jun 2009 06:20:58 GMT http://burningwoman.tribe.net/thread/783841a8-d0d0-4169-94de-0cf76e2f0a95#f4111e0f-6716-4c64-b25d-8d740354bdda thriver 2009-06-19T06:20:58Z http://burningwoman.tribe.net/thread/783841a8-d0d0-4169-94de-0cf76e2f0a95#901c094c-0afb-4a65-b421-7dd6412cc2e0 Oooh... that's one to keep close. If it doesn't apply, let it fly. I like it. Thu, 18 Jun 2009 02:38:50 GMT http://burningwoman.tribe.net/thread/783841a8-d0d0-4169-94de-0cf76e2f0a95#901c094c-0afb-4a65-b421-7dd6412cc2e0 Dusty Nipples (Kim) 2009-06-18T02:38:50Z http://burningwoman.tribe.net/thread/783841a8-d0d0-4169-94de-0cf76e2f0a95#c75b74aa-0711-4d2a-9511-8dd7598af194 But!! When Im 35, and he's 27/28...it wont be enough of an age difference to be considered a cougar. *pouts* I wanna be a cougar now!! *stomps feet* Wed, 17 Jun 2009 21:04:54 GMT http://burningwoman.tribe.net/thread/783841a8-d0d0-4169-94de-0cf76e2f0a95#c75b74aa-0711-4d2a-9511-8dd7598af194 Rapunzel ♥ )*( 2009-06-17T21:04:54Z http://burningwoman.tribe.net/thread/783841a8-d0d0-4169-94de-0cf76e2f0a95#6a1dade8-f678-423f-a161-30569c5f44d2 Someone gave me great advice the other day, " if it doesnt apply, let it fly" As in, if someone calls you something youre not, you know youre not that, so they arent talking to you, are they? Wed, 17 Jun 2009 20:13:40 GMT http://burningwoman.tribe.net/thread/783841a8-d0d0-4169-94de-0cf76e2f0a95#6a1dade8-f678-423f-a161-30569c5f44d2 HunnyDu 2009-06-17T20:13:40Z http://burningwoman.tribe.net/thread/783841a8-d0d0-4169-94de-0cf76e2f0a95#e694212c-4336-44ca-8e03-f7f80147e13c Well, I'll take Cougar, and run with it. I'm 46, was dating guys 7 years younger in my 30s, now they are 15-20 years younger occasionally. I love their energy, enthusiasm, and stamina. I stick to artsy types, so there's always something to talk about. I did a 4-month stint with a 42 year old earlier this year. What a bag of unresolved issues. It comes down to 3 things for me in a relationship, after the basic honesty: Communication, participation, and sex. I'll take it in the best package I can get it. And I offer an amazing ride. ;-) Wed, 17 Jun 2009 19:58:54 GMT http://burningwoman.tribe.net/thread/783841a8-d0d0-4169-94de-0cf76e2f0a95#e694212c-4336-44ca-8e03-f7f80147e13c Soooz: biker/priestess 2009-06-17T19:58:54Z http://burningwoman.tribe.net/thread/783841a8-d0d0-4169-94de-0cf76e2f0a95#20e0b3e6-2c2f-4696-9293-cf2c026ab857 hey dusty, you can send those younger guys on my way, ok? ;^) because many of them are plenty experienced, and very interesting people. they, too, shouldn't be just defined by their age, right? but thinking that young guys are into older women because they think they're easy or desperate is not really how it is, at least not in my 15 years of dating younger guys. yeah, maybe on myspace, but those dorks are hitting on young women too usually, just hoping for some response. my younger men like older women because they like being around me because i'm confident, experienced and don't push for the status quo. i'm not pushing for marriage and kids, and don't equate dating with dropping a lot of money on me. my younger men like older women for a lot of very good reasons. oh, and they tell me that we're generally better in bed, because we've gotten over our body concerns and know how to let go. yes, that's a big draw, which i can totally understand. but i also don't like when a guy just says he's into older women, or big curvy women, or women with dreads, or whatever superficial trigger they're responding to. i want to be *seen* not fetishized. Wed, 17 Jun 2009 15:42:59 GMT http://burningwoman.tribe.net/thread/783841a8-d0d0-4169-94de-0cf76e2f0a95#20e0b3e6-2c2f-4696-9293-cf2c026ab857 leslie 2009-06-17T15:42:59Z http://burningwoman.tribe.net/thread/783841a8-d0d0-4169-94de-0cf76e2f0a95#9ca4c69f-4f89-497d-83e2-e4d7458305ac WORDS and the FEELINGS/ emotions they invoke. i control my reaction to others' words, to-not-take-it-personal, sense where that person is coming from to have them say that. My mom is a cougar. HAve I said that to her face, no-Just over the phone. But she sees herself as one. I am a puma. Why deny? It is Easier to embrace all that makes me who I am then to run away. Good and BAD. I choose to OWN what I am or not do it, no regrets just love. Now that person has to deal with me own their own. If we blend then what about it, if not-good bye/peace out. Words and how they make a person feel. Feelings are sensual, passionate, and quick. Words are said so freely, but come with heavy weight at moments. Causing ripples in our life line. How to deal with it comes up? Action must happen of some sort either way, a spilt. No need to waste time, life should be enjoyable regardless. Each to there own and see you on the FLIP SIDE YO> Read a great book, SEX IN HISTORY by Reay Tannahill ... Wed, 17 Jun 2009 03:36:17 GMT http://burningwoman.tribe.net/thread/783841a8-d0d0-4169-94de-0cf76e2f0a95#9ca4c69f-4f89-497d-83e2-e4d7458305ac Mad 2009-06-17T03:36:17Z http://burningwoman.tribe.net/thread/783841a8-d0d0-4169-94de-0cf76e2f0a95#cd3412d1-1ce1-47d4-93c6-e5a95c0ed337 Spot-on, Dusty! It's the indiscriminate use of this term for any woman of a certain age who dates a man even one year her junior that is the problem. If people use it in a complimenting context, then hooray for acknowledging that "sexy" has no age limit, for men or women! It's who you are as a person that matters most. And for those who look down their noses when they use the term, it's rather irksome, but we can write them off as clueless and immature, eh? > '' < meow! Tue, 16 Jun 2009 22:47:24 GMT http://burningwoman.tribe.net/thread/783841a8-d0d0-4169-94de-0cf76e2f0a95#cd3412d1-1ce1-47d4-93c6-e5a95c0ed337 Suz 2009-06-16T22:47:24Z http://burningwoman.tribe.net/thread/783841a8-d0d0-4169-94de-0cf76e2f0a95#e03e5766-2024-4df5-87b5-5e99b0580344 I guess in thinking about it, what bugs me most is that the term is so aged based, and it tends to get used on any woman of a certain age, regardless if it's applicable or not. Personally, I have no interest in 'younger' men. I find men with less life experience than me to be somewhat of a turn off. Worldliness is hot, inexperience is just a chore. On the other hand, grandpa doesn't do it for me either... I much prefer men who are on par with me. So when someone calls me a 'cougar' it's evident they don't have a clue who I am, and are calling me that based solely on the fact that I'm in my 40's. It just makes me feel objectified, in the same way I feel objectified when some young guy on Myspace wants to 'hook up' because he prefers 'older women'... translation... "you must be easy cuz you're old and desperate and who you are as a person really isn't relevant". So it's not that I take the term seriously, it's just that I hear it more often than I'm comfortable with. If guys called women something else on a regular basis that I found insulting, I'd say something. But this one seems to be so socially acceptable that to find it insulting makes me appear hyper-sensitive. So I guess if they use it in my presence, I'll let it ride. But if they apply it to me? Perhaps a gentle reminder that a woman is not defined by her age might be in order. Then I'll ask him if he has an older brother, or uncle, or perhaps his dad is single... and pounce! Tue, 16 Jun 2009 22:26:54 GMT http://burningwoman.tribe.net/thread/783841a8-d0d0-4169-94de-0cf76e2f0a95#e03e5766-2024-4df5-87b5-5e99b0580344 Dusty Nipples (Kim) 2009-06-16T22:26:54Z http://burningwoman.tribe.net/thread/783841a8-d0d0-4169-94de-0cf76e2f0a95#cca62503-690c-48d0-ad41-eb52c0b8e5d9 yes, the term really does mean an older woman, not just a woman who's a few years older than her boyfriend. but it's a stupid term anyway, so you use it any way you want. as long as you take it seriously enough to prey on him at every opportunity ;^) it's funny about the double standard for age. i married a guy 11 years older than me, i was 20 and he 31 when we met. no one ever seemed to think he was cradle-robbing. but when it's the other direction, suddenly it seems weird to people. i never could understand that. Tue, 16 Jun 2009 21:35:42 GMT http://burningwoman.tribe.net/thread/783841a8-d0d0-4169-94de-0cf76e2f0a95#cca62503-690c-48d0-ad41-eb52c0b8e5d9 leslie 2009-06-16T21:35:42Z http://burningwoman.tribe.net/thread/783841a8-d0d0-4169-94de-0cf76e2f0a95#eb98d2a3-aeff-43e8-83a3-2243697fe54c I think, technically, that to be considered a cougar, one must be over 35. Tue, 16 Jun 2009 20:24:33 GMT http://burningwoman.tribe.net/thread/783841a8-d0d0-4169-94de-0cf76e2f0a95#eb98d2a3-aeff-43e8-83a3-2243697fe54c HunnyDu 2009-06-16T20:24:33Z http://burningwoman.tribe.net/thread/783841a8-d0d0-4169-94de-0cf76e2f0a95#18738e36-0135-4347-bbce-27b1c9b4a45d >i like young men who already know what they're doing. Exactly. Apropos of nothing, I had a guy message me recently about something and say "I like to experiment"....I had to just tell him that good for him, but I'm not a chemistry set, and to go find some experience elsewhere and then maybe get back to me. Heh. Tue, 16 Jun 2009 16:36:06 GMT http://burningwoman.tribe.net/thread/783841a8-d0d0-4169-94de-0cf76e2f0a95#18738e36-0135-4347-bbce-27b1c9b4a45d Brody 2009-06-16T16:36:06Z http://burningwoman.tribe.net/thread/783841a8-d0d0-4169-94de-0cf76e2f0a95#f8fefd62-b690-4de9-8f7f-cce3dacde98a Im offended that you think Im not old enough to be a cougar though. lol. Im not "older"...but Im older than he is... I'll have to tell him about this conversation. He'll get a kick out of it. :) Tue, 16 Jun 2009 03:05:03 GMT http://burningwoman.tribe.net/thread/783841a8-d0d0-4169-94de-0cf76e2f0a95#f8fefd62-b690-4de9-8f7f-cce3dacde98a Rapunzel ♥ )*( 2009-06-16T03:05:03Z http://burningwoman.tribe.net/thread/783841a8-d0d0-4169-94de-0cf76e2f0a95#cd00108b-998c-4967-9bef-fe636e9de6e4 I'll take puma! Its mostly just cute because he calls me that. But still. I dont think it would offend me ten years from now either. Tue, 16 Jun 2009 03:02:03 GMT http://burningwoman.tribe.net/thread/783841a8-d0d0-4169-94de-0cf76e2f0a95#cd00108b-998c-4967-9bef-fe636e9de6e4 Rapunzel ♥ )*( 2009-06-16T03:02:03Z http://burningwoman.tribe.net/thread/783841a8-d0d0-4169-94de-0cf76e2f0a95#eca692f2-6088-4d1e-b020-4c06e8aaec15 The correct term would be PUMA, cougar in training Tue, 16 Jun 2009 02:45:54 GMT http://burningwoman.tribe.net/thread/783841a8-d0d0-4169-94de-0cf76e2f0a95#eca692f2-6088-4d1e-b020-4c06e8aaec15 Mad 2009-06-16T02:45:54Z http://burningwoman.tribe.net/thread/783841a8-d0d0-4169-94de-0cf76e2f0a95#7f682f97-ab38-4b6c-9738-8553f01d92a7 You're a cougar at 29? Oh come on, 7 yrs isn't enough for you to be considered that much older, and you're no 'older woman' at your age, you beastly thing. But if it makes you happy and you have fun with it, who cares! Enjoy! Tue, 16 Jun 2009 02:34:53 GMT http://burningwoman.tribe.net/thread/783841a8-d0d0-4169-94de-0cf76e2f0a95#7f682f97-ab38-4b6c-9738-8553f01d92a7 Munky 2009-06-16T02:34:53Z http://burningwoman.tribe.net/thread/783841a8-d0d0-4169-94de-0cf76e2f0a95#0344d1a0-ef14-4ead-8445-91b67e84daed Leslie, me too!!!! I hate the term 'cougar' and I have stated that I AM NOT MRS. ROBINSON more times than I can count. If he's gonna be physical with me, he already better have the education well in hand, because I'm not going to waste my time teaching. As a mature woman I want a damned good lover or I can handle my own needs just fine. Having said that, I saw some phucking HOT young men at Pride yesterday. OMG It was so visually stimulating. Tue, 16 Jun 2009 02:33:38 GMT http://burningwoman.tribe.net/thread/783841a8-d0d0-4169-94de-0cf76e2f0a95#0344d1a0-ef14-4ead-8445-91b67e84daed Munky 2009-06-16T02:33:38Z http://burningwoman.tribe.net/thread/783841a8-d0d0-4169-94de-0cf76e2f0a95#5ab415ca-d734-4917-8752-b8a8479c0a6e LOL. I just read my comment and looked at my icon. How appropriate. Meow. Tue, 16 Jun 2009 01:53:20 GMT http://burningwoman.tribe.net/thread/783841a8-d0d0-4169-94de-0cf76e2f0a95#5ab415ca-d734-4917-8752-b8a8479c0a6e Rapunzel ♥ )*( 2009-06-16T01:53:20Z http://burningwoman.tribe.net/thread/783841a8-d0d0-4169-94de-0cf76e2f0a95#76fb2d7b-276f-4ff0-8b21-5330d8acb462 Im a cougar and I like it. My boyfriend calls me that. Im 29 and he just turned 22. I hunted him and conquered. He knows it ;) Not offended in the least. I rather take it as a compliment. Tue, 16 Jun 2009 01:52:19 GMT http://burningwoman.tribe.net/thread/783841a8-d0d0-4169-94de-0cf76e2f0a95#76fb2d7b-276f-4ff0-8b21-5330d8acb462 Rapunzel ♥ )*( 2009-06-16T01:52:19Z http://burningwoman.tribe.net/thread/783841a8-d0d0-4169-94de-0cf76e2f0a95#4b2a21b0-d565-4802-84e7-5c3436796cc3 the cougar is known for it's sleek, stealth, and ambush predatory nature. this large cat will eat any animal it catches. graceful and powerful. i suppose some women feel uber sexy being associated with such a prowess beast. i think tv shows and the media have given the word "cougar" a tainted image. case in point: http://www.urbancougar.com/ today's new is cub stud - a cougar's "catch". hilarious! Mon, 15 Jun 2009 03:24:09 GMT http://burningwoman.tribe.net/thread/783841a8-d0d0-4169-94de-0cf76e2f0a95#4b2a21b0-d565-4802-84e7-5c3436796cc3 thriver 2009-06-15T03:24:09Z http://burningwoman.tribe.net/thread/783841a8-d0d0-4169-94de-0cf76e2f0a95#f104b12e-c2f5-4c1c-934b-b5f4d7a2abce i guess it all depends on how you take it......take it as a compliment or an insult.......they're just trying to say you're hot and you're not 23 anymore....but yer still hot Mon, 15 Jun 2009 02:45:18 GMT http://burningwoman.tribe.net/thread/783841a8-d0d0-4169-94de-0cf76e2f0a95#f104b12e-c2f5-4c1c-934b-b5f4d7a2abce Megan 2009-06-15T02:45:18Z http://burningwoman.tribe.net/thread/783841a8-d0d0-4169-94de-0cf76e2f0a95#a268dee7-d414-4465-a0e6-d27810a99602 YES! Leslie always says it so eloquently, exactly MY sentiments, I don't give lessons, they beter already know, and if a bit of instruction is warranted well, that'sok, but they better already have the basics, goes for the women in my life as well... Mwahhh! lovely lady. hope life is wonderful inthose green lush hills.. Bare Sun, 14 Jun 2009 22:16:13 GMT http://burningwoman.tribe.net/thread/783841a8-d0d0-4169-94de-0cf76e2f0a95#a268dee7-d414-4465-a0e6-d27810a99602 LyingBare 2009-06-14T22:16:13Z http://burningwoman.tribe.net/thread/783841a8-d0d0-4169-94de-0cf76e2f0a95#082fd6fd-96a1-45e6-816a-1188e5506ae3 as a woman who hasn't dated a guy even remotely near my age since i was divorced 16 years ago, when milf came into the culture, i thought it was silly, yet flattering because it was a term that referred to the guy's desires. i read an article a few years ago by the woman who coined the term "cougar" -- she was an aging, mainstream new york society type who was after young hot male models... she was indeed a predatory animal, sort of like a female hugh hefner type, collecting hot young men as arm candy, not seeking real relationships. i am not a predator, thank you very much. in fact, i very rarely will make the first move with a younger man, because any guy who's going to be a match for me better have the balls to say so. i'm not coming after him. so when someone refers to me as a cougar, they generally get a little education. i'm also not a mrs. robinson. i like young men who already know what they're doing. Sun, 14 Jun 2009 22:09:26 GMT http://burningwoman.tribe.net/thread/783841a8-d0d0-4169-94de-0cf76e2f0a95#082fd6fd-96a1-45e6-816a-1188e5506ae3 leslie 2009-06-14T22:09:26Z http://burningwoman.tribe.net/thread/783841a8-d0d0-4169-94de-0cf76e2f0a95#5a831b2f-ad31-44f5-a0b7-949fb7f895ff Ohhhh I Love that word, CUNT!, the book was excellent, I highly recommend it. I think the author is Inga Musial, Sat, 13 Jun 2009 03:10:11 GMT http://burningwoman.tribe.net/thread/783841a8-d0d0-4169-94de-0cf76e2f0a95#5a831b2f-ad31-44f5-a0b7-949fb7f895ff LyingBare 2009-06-13T03:10:11Z http://burningwoman.tribe.net/thread/783841a8-d0d0-4169-94de-0cf76e2f0a95#4b7fb8be-434a-479a-b1bf-2bcc5f44315d Meh... words are this funny thing. I remember a friend jokingly calling me a cougar at first I didn't like it... but the more I thought about it was kinda funny. It conjures thoughts of the graduate and Mrs. Robinson and it validates that older women or women of any age can still have "it" if they just embrace the deep sexiness that knowing what your doing. So I suppose I can see both sides... but I am the one who tells people when they call me Bitch ... "that's cunt to you".... always shuts people up due to there own misconceptions. Sat, 13 Jun 2009 02:44:36 GMT http://burningwoman.tribe.net/thread/783841a8-d0d0-4169-94de-0cf76e2f0a95#4b7fb8be-434a-479a-b1bf-2bcc5f44315d Gigi-D (DogBite) 2009-06-13T02:44:36Z http://burningwoman.tribe.net/thread/783841a8-d0d0-4169-94de-0cf76e2f0a95#b463fd0c-6d39-4adc-95f0-164324387de7 I don't really think it is any different then Tiger really. What's the difference between a tiger and cougar? Go get em tiger, or she's a tiger in the bed. It's a sexy cat. Not fond of name calling at all really lol, even if it is a tiger or cougar. Why can't I just be a sexy woman, but just as far as the meaning and lingo goes...yeah I dunno. Sat, 13 Jun 2009 00:17:21 GMT http://burningwoman.tribe.net/thread/783841a8-d0d0-4169-94de-0cf76e2f0a95#b463fd0c-6d39-4adc-95f0-164324387de7 Belinda 2009-06-13T00:17:21Z http://burningwoman.tribe.net/thread/783841a8-d0d0-4169-94de-0cf76e2f0a95#88e6e1c8-ff64-4128-aa51-5490040ab426 To use a term almost as overused as "cougar"... meh. On one hand, the implication is that this woman is predatory, which is unflattering to both the woman AND her younger lover. Really, is he just lower on the food chain? On the other, I agree that these terms are just silly media characterizations, and I don't take them personally - even though I usually date men that are younger than me. Fri, 12 Jun 2009 20:23:35 GMT http://burningwoman.tribe.net/thread/783841a8-d0d0-4169-94de-0cf76e2f0a95#88e6e1c8-ff64-4128-aa51-5490040ab426 Anne 2009-06-12T20:23:35Z http://burningwoman.tribe.net/thread/783841a8-d0d0-4169-94de-0cf76e2f0a95#21af07ed-64fa-41fd-b34b-3d60cb11ff3c I dont mind the word in context. Besides, a cougar is a highly evolved skilled adaptable hunter, what's not to like? Fri, 12 Jun 2009 20:17:10 GMT http://burningwoman.tribe.net/thread/783841a8-d0d0-4169-94de-0cf76e2f0a95#21af07ed-64fa-41fd-b34b-3d60cb11ff3c Elaine~ 2009-06-12T20:17:10Z http://burningwoman.tribe.net/thread/783841a8-d0d0-4169-94de-0cf76e2f0a95#e90d4310-ce66-4595-bf2c-e03294c3d1dc I'm with Neon! Fri, 12 Jun 2009 20:06:03 GMT http://burningwoman.tribe.net/thread/783841a8-d0d0-4169-94de-0cf76e2f0a95#e90d4310-ce66-4595-bf2c-e03294c3d1dc Miss Molli 2009-06-12T20:06:03Z http://burningwoman.tribe.net/thread/783841a8-d0d0-4169-94de-0cf76e2f0a95#92988163-8a44-49d4-b7d6-0253d010e110 I get the impression that both terms are media driven. Whether the words are actually derogatory depends on context. For what it's worth, my wife is older than I am, and she's a mother, but I call her "sweetie." Fri, 12 Jun 2009 20:00:38 GMT http://burningwoman.tribe.net/thread/783841a8-d0d0-4169-94de-0cf76e2f0a95#92988163-8a44-49d4-b7d6-0253d010e110 dr.placebo 2009-06-12T20:00:38Z http://burningwoman.tribe.net/thread/783841a8-d0d0-4169-94de-0cf76e2f0a95#d3f2d048-5527-4c84-bf8a-8955a353598e I think it's kind of hilarious, but then again I have a long history of laughing at other things that people take very seriously. People deride/judge what they don't understand, or what threatens them. Words only have as much power as you give them. Fri, 12 Jun 2009 16:59:57 GMT http://burningwoman.tribe.net/thread/783841a8-d0d0-4169-94de-0cf76e2f0a95#d3f2d048-5527-4c84-bf8a-8955a353598e Brody 2009-06-12T16:59:57Z http://burningwoman.tribe.net/thread/783841a8-d0d0-4169-94de-0cf76e2f0a95#577c492b-1506-4065-aae7-0ce686fbe9f3 oh, and a year or so ago when I was up on a dating site I got an email from someone 3 or 4 years younger than me, calling me a cougar. um what? i'm 32. needless to say i just deleted that one. Fri, 12 Jun 2009 15:58:39 GMT http://burningwoman.tribe.net/thread/783841a8-d0d0-4169-94de-0cf76e2f0a95#577c492b-1506-4065-aae7-0ce686fbe9f3 HunnyBear 2009-06-12T15:58:39Z http://burningwoman.tribe.net/thread/783841a8-d0d0-4169-94de-0cf76e2f0a95#437977c5-f651-4286-88fd-fdc685b1ffe3 I don't care for it. if someone chooses to use it for themself, ok, but I don't think it's flattering. I had the pleasure of hearing a coworker call another a cougar. he explained that she used it first. and this was the week that we were all doing sexual harassment training. Some people never will get it. Whether it's ok to joke with her or not about it, it's NOT ok to do that at work. ugh. Fri, 12 Jun 2009 15:56:50 GMT http://burningwoman.tribe.net/thread/783841a8-d0d0-4169-94de-0cf76e2f0a95#437977c5-f651-4286-88fd-fdc685b1ffe3 HunnyBear 2009-06-12T15:56:50Z http://burningwoman.tribe.net/thread/783841a8-d0d0-4169-94de-0cf76e2f0a95#44ebbf83-5582-4dd7-b2ec-c4a2634fe4f8 Yuck...I don't like the term... But I LOVE the concept ;-) Fri, 12 Jun 2009 15:33:43 GMT http://burningwoman.tribe.net/thread/783841a8-d0d0-4169-94de-0cf76e2f0a95#44ebbf83-5582-4dd7-b2ec-c4a2634fe4f8 Neon 2009-06-12T15:33:43Z http://burningwoman.tribe.net/thread/783841a8-d0d0-4169-94de-0cf76e2f0a95#27ee3ba6-cdd0-44cf-975b-7cbfc15c2f9f A cougar is a hot older woman who dates younger men. Most men seem to think that calling a woman a cougar is a compliment. There are a lot of women who refer to themselves as cougars too. I'm wondering how the women here feel about it, and wondering if my sensitivity to the term is an overreaction. Fri, 12 Jun 2009 15:27:53 GMT http://burningwoman.tribe.net/thread/783841a8-d0d0-4169-94de-0cf76e2f0a95#27ee3ba6-cdd0-44cf-975b-7cbfc15c2f9f Dusty Nipples (Kim) 2009-06-12T15:27:53Z http://burningwoman.tribe.net/thread/783841a8-d0d0-4169-94de-0cf76e2f0a95#944f614e-dca7-4688-9f68-b21844e894b6 I've never actually heard it used. HOW is it used? I've long held that men are weird in their insistence on giving EVERYTHING sexual or female a nickname. I'm sure this is just another one of them. Fri, 12 Jun 2009 15:03:26 GMT http://burningwoman.tribe.net/thread/783841a8-d0d0-4169-94de-0cf76e2f0a95#944f614e-dca7-4688-9f68-b21844e894b6 Brigit 2009-06-12T15:03:26Z http://burningwoman.tribe.net/thread/783841a8-d0d0-4169-94de-0cf76e2f0a95#bd8ba70b-f52b-4f12-83a6-f9fa323a2bbe I don't like it. I am who I am. i went to burning man last year and had a lot of young men hit on me. I don't consider myself some old cat. I'm just me. You know? Fri, 12 Jun 2009 09:35:57 GMT http://burningwoman.tribe.net/thread/783841a8-d0d0-4169-94de-0cf76e2f0a95#bd8ba70b-f52b-4f12-83a6-f9fa323a2bbe Munky 2009-06-12T09:35:57Z http://burningwoman.tribe.net/thread/783841a8-d0d0-4169-94de-0cf76e2f0a95#c2b6dd1e-9e7a-4a9a-9edf-512f4d63e53d Like a child molesting sex starved piece of meat with no identity, but thats just MY opinion, wonder why it is that an OLD guy with a YOUNG woman is thought to be a stud, but an Older woman with a younger man is called unflattering names. and OH! how I wish I could make this non gender specific but thats an entirely other conversation. I have decided I don;t care what they call me, it's their issue not mine and I dont have to take it on. perhaps THEY are just envious. Justification. perhaps. Fri, 12 Jun 2009 06:23:22 GMT http://burningwoman.tribe.net/thread/783841a8-d0d0-4169-94de-0cf76e2f0a95#c2b6dd1e-9e7a-4a9a-9edf-512f4d63e53d LyingBare 2009-06-12T06:23:22Z http://burningwoman.tribe.net/thread/783841a8-d0d0-4169-94de-0cf76e2f0a95#933cbb25-b32e-435e-aba6-5479fb9fcce2 I had a rather heated discussion tonite with friends about terms like 'cougar' and 'milf'... and my opinion didn't seem to be the popular opinion. So, I'm biting my tongue for the moment. And I'm posing the question here... When you hear a woman referred to as a 'cougar'... how does that make you feel? Fri, 12 Jun 2009 06:05:59 GMT http://burningwoman.tribe.net/thread/783841a8-d0d0-4169-94de-0cf76e2f0a95#933cbb25-b32e-435e-aba6-5479fb9fcce2 Dusty Nipples (Kim) 2009-06-12T06:05:59Z