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This is my first year going to BM. I am so excited I can hardly stand it. But it's becoming complicated.
I got a ticket for myself and a very good friend who is having a big birthday that week (I am too!). He's more friend than lover, but we are lovers. The plan has been for the two of us to go in my van. Then, about 2 months ago, at a burner event I met a guy and started seeing him. He's my lover too, and he wants me to be with him at BM. Both guys know all about each other (no secrets). Guy #1 is cool with whatever I want to do. Guy #2 is a little on the jealous side, but dealing with it all. I've told them both I want to go and have a good time and although I want to be with them both (not at the same time), this event (and my participation) is not about them - I don't want to be responsible for their "goodtime". I don't know whether to make a schedule, be freeform (and miss somebody) or???? On top of everything, I want to be open to making new friends!
anyone out there ever find themselves in this situation? any suggestions?
I got a ticket for myself and a very good friend who is having a big birthday that week (I am too!). He's more friend than lover, but we are lovers. The plan has been for the two of us to go in my van. Then, about 2 months ago, at a burner event I met a guy and started seeing him. He's my lover too, and he wants me to be with him at BM. Both guys know all about each other (no secrets). Guy #1 is cool with whatever I want to do. Guy #2 is a little on the jealous side, but dealing with it all. I've told them both I want to go and have a good time and although I want to be with them both (not at the same time), this event (and my participation) is not about them - I don't want to be responsible for their "goodtime". I don't know whether to make a schedule, be freeform (and miss somebody) or???? On top of everything, I want to be open to making new friends!
anyone out there ever find themselves in this situation? any suggestions?
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Re: could use a little relationship advice
Mon, August 10, 2009 - 6:44 PMYou sound like a parent. Not in a bad way, but an hilariously ironic way.
So sit your boys down and say something along these lines "I want to have fun at BM, with both of you and by myself, I will MOST LIKELY be in camp at this time of day, if you want to set up further plans with me, be in camp." So that way you can do almost anything, and you don't have to plan it out day by day, and they feel like they can get ahold of you. But adding something similar to most likely means that if you are in the middle of something awesome at that time, and you miss being at camp, they can't bitch.
Word it in a way that will make them happy (feel important, thought of, free men, whatever) or say it to them sepereately. If they're to young of mind to accept it, I can't help you. And if guy 2 has a hissy fit or break down, don't let him get your burn down. You are NOT actually his mommy, and you obviously have backstock in more level-headed men anyways. -
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Re: could use a little relationship advice
Mon, August 10, 2009 - 6:54 PMthat is really good advice. guy #2 is bringing his art car and will be doing the taxi thing most nights. he wants me to be with him, which I have mixed feelings about - I don't really do the arm candy thing too well, but it seems important to him. I love the notion of compelling them to share the responsibility for figuring this out. thanks. -
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Re: could use a little relationship advice
Tue, August 11, 2009 - 12:38 PMI can't speak to a lot of what you need advice for, but I do know a few things about being art car arm candy. My suggestion is to make a few dates to go out on the car with him, but not every night. While hanging out on an art car can be fun, it can also become irritating, especially if you aren't into it. And unless you really like being outgoing all the time, it's something that is best done only a few times during the week.
I went with a boyfriend who had an art car that also served as our sleeping quarters (a VW bus). So wherever we went, we were "on". Being an introvert, it was especially hard for me. The saving grace was that I had made dates with friends ahead of time and also had a camp where my tent was set up for breaks and plain old alone time.
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Re: could use a little relationship advice
Mon, August 10, 2009 - 6:45 PMI think I'll let the poly girls take this one on :)
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Re: could use a little relationship advice
Tue, August 11, 2009 - 1:03 PMMy expirience showed , that the best thing is not to make any plans , arrangments or have any expectations ....
At BM things go differently...but at the end it all works out somehow.
Plus this will be a good test for both guys...you ll see who is better for you after surviving a week of craziness , dust storms and no sleep at all.
You will have a blast regardless of what happens...esspecially if its your first BM. That expirience you will NEVER forget .
I know i didnt ;)
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Re: could use a little relationship advice
Tue, August 11, 2009 - 5:27 PMI am a fan od "loose" plans... like wed night is our night and thur night is #2 night.... and the rest are up to me. I think personally it feels good to at least plan a night thta the focus is doing stuff together... or a day. But make more unplanned than planned.
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Re: could use a little relationship advice
Tue, August 11, 2009 - 7:23 PMallow me to chime in from the male-poly perspective
I agree wholeheartedly with the "plan some time with them and leave the rest for you",,,one set day or night ...maybe two with artcarguy...that you know for sure you will hang...other than that...enjoy the playa...(this way if you DO end up hanging more than one day with either of them you will do so freely as opposed to some sense of obligation)
I've had years where I had to make a spreadsheet to keep track of all the dates I had scheduled...that was just silly...and half of them changed anyway...nothing quite like standing at the man all dressed up on a monday night being stood up cuz the person you were meeting was stuck in a med-tent dehydrated from working on art all day...makes you really sit back and take a good long look at the man...
anyway...my other two cents would be to give BOTH of them ONE free pass,,, A free pass is a way for them to be able to get their needs met at least ONE time during the week even if it trumps what you have going on with you...this is a nice balance to having the rest of your time free to yourself...and it is interesting to see how, when, why and even IF your partner/lover/playmate deploys their free pass...
You sent the meaning of the pass and what they get when they deploy it (ie you get my attention for an hour uninterrupted)
lastly...if you might want some "new friends" be them lovers or just a cool new pal you want to get all groovy and intense with in a non-physical fashion...might I suggest making some Pre-Established guidelines/rules for both your boys so that they know how you would like them to be when and if they encounter you with someone else either in camp or out in the city...that way if you DO end up back in your tent with some new tasty friend...you can just hang the pink hanky on the tent zipper so that the boys know not to come knocking or whatever you devise (heck your rules might be "if the hanky's on the zipper COME ON IN and JOIN US) - point being..whatever you want to have happen ...helps to set that up in advance rather then deal with it in the moment...most boys behave better when they know the rules
and can employ them to help save face as opposed to just reacting however they feel in the moment and then finding out later it was the wrong way to be...
have fun and kudoz to you for being so conscious and considerate to work it out in advance -
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Re: could use a little relationship advice
Tue, August 11, 2009 - 11:36 PMYes Yes! I agree, plan a special night with each of them and the rest is left to playadipity, all together or not at all or any combination thereof
that way each person has the playa experience they are meant to have without planning every moment,
if there are no secrets anyway, then I'd say only have "the discussion" if the need arises, no need to begin putting stipulations on if ya havent had to before now.
Captn how nice to see you online, it's been a VERY long time, I have missed your posts and input. Much Love and light to you and yours my friend.
Bare
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Re: could use a little relationship advice
Thu, August 13, 2009 - 5:25 PMYou know I love the free pass Idea. Generally my Husband is pretty responsive to my needs but this is a nice tool. And it may work really well for him to use on me!
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Re: could use a little relationship advice
Thu, August 13, 2009 - 5:31 PMsigh... ok maybe I spoke too soon.... looks like she is considering going
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Re: could use a little relationship advice
Wed, August 12, 2009 - 1:17 AMAhem.
Three tents.
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Re: could use a little relationship advice
Fri, August 14, 2009 - 12:43 PMLetting it all unfold once youre there is probably the only thing to do, tho there are some great suggestions here. Be prepared for any feelings to arise and be accepting of them.
I met someone pre BMan in 06 and we liked eachother and arranged a few Playa dates. He was super cool and very inexperienced, so I wanted him to be free as possible (and Im married anyway, he knew that) I also had a friend showing up on Thurs. that wasnt a lover, but a future close friend from my music circle. Its all so confusing, but the cool guy I met for a date we had a great first couple dates in the beginning of the week at BMan, but he was so meticulous about his scheduling with his dates with me and other women that it was a turn off. It was like he kept a little book and marked off when he was gonna hang out with each girl. Altho this guy TOTALLY deserved it (late bloomer, go get em boy! :) it just felt forced to me, and the seductive romantic part of the journey I love so much was dust in the wind.
When my music friend arrived on Thurs, although he was awkward and unsure of his feelings, our connection was deep, and I preferred spending time with him in the unknown than to get guarunteed sex and dates from the Nice Cool Schedule Guy. The Schedule guy came to me at camp and wanted to mark me down for the Burn, and I said I wasnt interested anymore. I didnt put pressure on my Music friend, just told him that I would rather spend QUALITY time with him.
Here it is years alter and my Music Friend is one of my best ever. We do all kinds of stuff together. I kinda lost touch with Schedule Guy right away. Sometimes you can only know whats RIGHT when the moment comes, thats the point of me telling this story. -
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Re: could use a little relationship advice
Fri, August 14, 2009 - 1:24 PMGood advise. I like the idea of a day for #1 and a day for #2....
I can't even find ONE burner boyfriend......and you have 2? Not fair!
LOL
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Re: could use a little relationship advice
Fri, August 14, 2009 - 6:53 PMyou girls are amazing. thank you for the thoughful and soulful input. I just got back from spending several days in the forest alone for some special me-alone time. since I am an introvert, I can become over stimulated (!!) easily. I love the free pass idea and the one special day each, then free form.
ah, yes, and setting rules. fortunately they each have their own sleeping place, but I like the "if the panties are flying, then make your decisions regarding entering thoughtfully". I'm pretty inclusive these days. keeps everyone's fickle emo's in check. I'm in M'ster Cools camp this year (silicon village) - across the dirt from the Orgasm Yurt... go figure. come by (no pun intended) and say howdy.
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